Abstract
A recurring theme in Plato’s critique of poetry is the pleasures it affords. Poetry’s pleasures allow poets, little by little, to instil values in the soul of their audience — that is, the values which their protagonists represent. In Plato’s view, these are very often morally degraded values. At the same time, Plato holds that we need poetry in order to impersonate the right values and to develop the best moral attitudes and habits. Thus, he recommends an ‘austere’ poetry for pedagogical purposes, and outlines a programme of censorship for poetry that meets these quite demanding ‘austerity standards’.
Access this chapter
Tax calculation will be finalised at checkout
Purchases are for personal use only
Preview
Unable to display preview. Download preview PDF.
Bibliography
Barney, R. (2001) ‘Platonism, Moral Nostalgia and the City of Pigs’, Proceedings of the Boston Area Colloquium in Ancient Philosophy, XVII, 207–27.
Destrée, P. (2009) ‘Happiness, Justice, and Poetry in Plato’s Republic’, Proceedings of the Boston Area Colloquium in Ancient Philosophy, XXV, 243–69.
Destrée, P. (2011) ‘Poetry, Thumos, and Pity in the Republic’ in P. Destrée and F. G. Herrmann (eds) Plato and the Poets (Leiden: Brill).
Destrée, P. (2012) ‘Spectacles from Hades. On Plato’s Myths and Allegories in the Republic’ in C. Collobert, P. Destrée, and F. Gonzalez (eds) Plato and Myth: Studies on the Use and Status of Platonic Myths (Leiden: Brill).
Destrée, P. and Herrmann, F. G. (eds) (2011) Plato and the Poets (Lerden: Brill).
Else, G. F. (1972) The Structure and Date of Book 10 of Plato’s Republic (Heidelberg: Abhandlungen der Heidelberger Akademie der Wissenschaften, Philosophisch-Historische Klasse; Jahrg. 1972, 3. Abhandlung).
Halliwell, S. (1988) Plato: Republic 10 (Warminster: Aris and Phillips).
Halliwell, S. (2002) The Aesthetics of Mimesis: Ancient Texts & Modern Problems (Princeton: Princeton University Press).
Halliwell, S. (2011) ‘Antidotes and Incantation. Is there any cure for Poetry in Plato’s Republic?’ in Destrée and Herrmann (eds) Plato and the Poets (Leiden: Brill).
Lorenz, H. (2006) The Brute Within: Appetitive Desire in Plato and Aristotle (Oxford: Oxford University Press).
Most, G. (2011) ‘What Ancient Quarrel between Philosophy and Poetry?’ in P. Destrée and F. G. Herrmann (eds) Plato and the Poets (Leiden: Brill).
Nightingale, A. W. (2002) ‘Distant Views: Realistic and Fantastic Mimesis in Plato’ in J. Annas and C. Rowe (eds) New Perspectives on Plato, Modern and Ancient (Cambridge: Harvard University Press).
Partenie, C. (ed.) (2009) Plato’s Myths (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press).
Reeve, C. D. C. (trans.) (2004) Plato: Republic (Indianapolis: Hackett).
Richardson Lear G. (2011) ‘Mimesis and Psychological Change in Republic III’ in P. Destrée and F.G. Herrmann (eds) Plato and the Poets (Leiden: Brill).
Rowe, C. (2009) ‘The Charioteer and His Horses: An Example of Platonic Mythmaking’ in C. Partenie (ed.) Plato’s Myths (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press).
Rutherford, R. B. (1995) The Art of Plato (London: Duckworth).
Editor information
Editors and Affiliations
Copyright information
© 2012 Pierre Destrée
About this chapter
Cite this chapter
Destrée, P. (2012). Plato on Tragic and Comic Pleasures. In: Denham, A.E. (eds) Plato on Art and Beauty. Philosophers in Depth. Palgrave Macmillan, London. https://doi.org/10.1057/9780230368187_7
Download citation
DOI: https://doi.org/10.1057/9780230368187_7
Publisher Name: Palgrave Macmillan, London
Print ISBN: 978-1-349-33965-5
Online ISBN: 978-0-230-36818-7
eBook Packages: Palgrave Media & Culture CollectionLiterature, Cultural and Media Studies (R0)