Skip to main content

Marx’s Observations on the Classical Theory of Interest

  • Chapter
  • First Online:
Karl Marx’s Life, Ideas, and Influences

Part of the book series: Marx, Engels, and Marxisms ((MAENMA))

  • 683 Accesses

Abstract

In the classical theory of interest, as enunciated by David Ricardo, interest is determined by the rate of profit. Marx was critical of this view, starting with an idea that usury is a feature of pre-industrial or mercantile capitalism, and proceeding to the view that the development of money markets concentrates monetary resources and tends to reduce the money rate of interest. It is not the current money rate of interest that is determined by the rate of profit, but some average or long-term rate that is implicit, rather than emerging as a real economic variable. The chapter concludes by showing that in a pure capitalist economy, interest is a pure transfer between capitalists of their existing monetary resources, rather than requiring a current surplus of production over costs. In this way, the rate of interest ceases to be dependent on the rate of profit.

This is a preview of subscription content, log in via an institution to check access.

Access this chapter

Chapter
USD 29.95
Price excludes VAT (USA)
  • Available as PDF
  • Read on any device
  • Instant download
  • Own it forever
eBook
USD 109.00
Price excludes VAT (USA)
  • Available as EPUB and PDF
  • Read on any device
  • Instant download
  • Own it forever
Softcover Book
USD 139.99
Price excludes VAT (USA)
  • Compact, lightweight edition
  • Dispatched in 3 to 5 business days
  • Free shipping worldwide - see info
Hardcover Book
USD 139.99
Price excludes VAT (USA)
  • Durable hardcover edition
  • Dispatched in 3 to 5 business days
  • Free shipping worldwide - see info

Tax calculation will be finalised at checkout

Purchases are for personal use only

Institutional subscriptions

Notes

  1. 1.

    David Ricardo, The High Price of Bullion: A Proof of the Depreciation of Bank Notes, in The Works and Correspondence of David Ricardo, Volume III, Pamphlets and Papers, 1809–1811, ed. Piero Sraffa (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1951), 88–9.

  2. 2.

    Ibid., 143.

  3. 3.

    David Ricardo, On the Principles of Political Economy and Taxation, in The Works and Correspondence of David Ricardo Volume I, ed. Piero Sraffa and Maurice Dobb (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1951), 365. The Usury Laws at the time when Ricardo was writing restricted the rate of interest to a maximum of 5 per cent.

  4. 4.

    Ibid., 297.

  5. 5.

    Ibid., 298. See also G. L. S. Shackle, “Foreword,” in Value Capital and Rent, by Knut Wicksell (London: George Allen and Unwin, 1954).

  6. 6.

    Ibid.

  7. 7.

    Ricardo, On the Principles of Political Economy and Taxation, 298.

  8. 8.

    Ibid., 297–300. See also Jan Toporowski, Theories of Financial Disturbance: An Examination of Critical Theories of Finance from Adam Smith to the Present Day (Cheltenham: Edward Elgar, 2005), 17–25.

  9. 9.

    Karl Marx, Theories of Surplus Value Part III (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1971), 487.

  10. 10.

    Ibid., 477–8.

  11. 11.

    Ricardo, On the Principles of Political Economy and Taxation, 297.

  12. 12.

    Matthew Smith, Thomas Tooke and the Monetary Thought of Classical Economics (Abingdon, UK: Routledge, 2011), 212.

  13. 13.

    Fredrick Engels, “Preface,” in MECW (London: Lawrence & Wishart, 1998), 37: 6.

  14. 14.

    Karl Marx, Capital, Vol. III, in MECW (London: Lawrence & Wishart, 1998), 37: 365–6, 512.

  15. 15.

    Ibid., 360.

  16. 16.

    Ibid., 513–15.

  17. 17.

    Ibid., 358–9.

  18. 18.

    Ibid., 360.

  19. 19.

    Ibid., 361–2.

  20. 20.

    Ibid., 362, 366. In the twentieth century, Keynes and Kalecki argued that it was this long-term rate of interest that is relevant to business investment.

  21. 21.

    Ibid., 362, 364–5, also 366–8.

  22. 22.

    Ibid., 378.

  23. 23.

    Nicholas Barbon, A Discourse of Trade (London: Milbourn, 1690).

  24. 24.

    Joseph A. Schumpeter, History of Economic Analysis (New York: Oxford University Press, 1954), 330.

  25. 25.

    Rudolf Hilferding, Finance Capital A Study of the Latest Phase of Capitalist Development (London: Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1981): 268–9.

  26. 26.

    See Ralph George Hawtrey, A Century of Bank Rate (London: Longmans, Green and Co., 1938), chapter VI.

  27. 27.

    Karl Marx, Capital. Vol. II, in MECW (London: Lawrence & Wishart, 1997), 36: 473–7.

  28. 28.

    Karl H. Niebyl, Studies in the Classical Theories of Money (New York: Columbia University Press, 1946), chapter 3.

  29. 29.

    Michal Kalecki, “An Essay on the Business Cycle Theory,” in The Collected Works of Michał Kalecki Volume I Capitalism: Business Cycles and Full Employment, ed. Jerzy Osiatynski (Oxford: The Clarendon Press, 1933), 93–8.

  30. 30.

    Marx, Capital, Vol. III, chapter XXI.

  31. 31.

    It is the neglect of the distinction between capitalist credit and debt and pre-capitalist debt, and the income and balance sheet implications of that distinction, that confuses long-term (econometric) studies of debt, such as Carmen M. Reinhart, and Kenneth S. Rogoff, “This Time is Different: A Panoramic View of Eight Centuries of Financial Crises,” NBER Working Paper No. 13882 (March 2008).

  32. 32.

    Hartley Withers, The Meaning of Money (New York: Dutton, 1909); Dennis Holme Robertson, “Theories of Banking Policy,” in Essays in Monetary Theory (London: P.S. King, 1940). “We have spoken of bankers and financiers as the makers of credit. But we have also recognized that the chief financial material out of which they make it is the stocks and shares and other certificates of value which represents the capital created by the saving and investing classes. It is thus the growth of the forms of saving which take these financial shapes that enables the increased credit to emerge from the financial factories. All such modern saving can furnish material for the creation of more credit.” John Atkinson Hobson, Gold Prices and Wages with an Examination of the Quantity Theory (London: Methuen, 1924), 89.

  33. 33.

    “The rate of interest that is paid on deposits is always somewhat lower than the rate charged by banks on loans. The difference between these two rates remunerates the bank …” Knut Wicksell, Interest and Prices: A Study of the Causes Regulating the Value of Money (London: Macmillan, 1936), 139.

  34. 34.

    The theory may be summarized as follows. In a closed economy, with no government, in a given period, total income \( \left(\mathrm{Y}\right) \) is equal to the sum of profits plus wages\( \left(\mathrm{W}+\mathrm{P}\right) \), which in turn, is equal to Consumption plus Investment \( \left(\mathrm{C}+\mathrm{I}\right) \). \( \mathrm{Y}-\mathrm{C}=\mathrm{I}=\mathrm{Saving} \). Saving may be divided into the saving of workers \( \left({\mathrm{S}}_{\mathrm{w}}\right) \) and the saving of capitalists \( \left({\mathrm{S}}_{\mathrm{c}}\right) \). Similarly, Consumption may be divided into the consumption of workers \( \left({\mathrm{C}}_{\mathrm{w}}\right) \) and the consumption of capitalists \( \left({\mathrm{C}}_{\mathrm{c}}\right) \).

    Profits are therefore equal to \( {\mathrm{S}}_{\mathrm{c}}+{\mathrm{C}}_{\mathrm{c}} \). \( {\mathrm{S}}_{\mathrm{c}} \) is equal to total Saving or Investment minus \( {\mathrm{S}}_{\mathrm{w}}\left(\mathrm{I}-{\mathrm{S}}_{\mathrm{w}}\right) \). Total Profits \( \left({\mathrm{S}}_{\mathrm{c}}+{\mathrm{C}}_{\mathrm{c}}\right) \) therefore equal to \( \mathrm{I}+{\mathrm{C}}_{\mathrm{c}}-{\mathrm{S}}_{\mathrm{w}} \). See Michal Kalecki, “The Short-term Rate of Interest and the Velocity of Cash Circulation,” Review of Economic Studies 2 (1942).

    It is easy to show that in the more complicated situation where banks earn money from intermediating household or workers’ deposits and loans, the profits of banks make no difference to aggregate profits.

  35. 35.

    Michal Kalecki, Selected Essays on the Dynamics of the Capitalist Economy 1933–1970 (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1971), 109.

  36. 36.

    Kalecki The Short-term Rate of Interest and the Velocity of Cash Circulation”.

  37. 37.

    Nobuhiro Kiyotaki, and John Moore, “Credit Cycles,” Journal of Political Economy 105, no. 2 (April 1997) present a model of credit cycles in which the only collateral is real or productive capital. Such a credit cycle, of course, then follows the investment cycle. The much more convenient and widespread use of financial assets as collateral extends the range and possibilities of the credit cycle far beyond the less financial investment cycle.

  38. 38.

    The process by which this happens in described in Jan Toporowski, “A Kalecki Fable on Debt and the Monetary Transmission Mechanism,” London School of Economics, Financial Markets Group Special Paper No. 239 (August 2015). Wicksell, who conceded that capitalists hold bank deposits (Wicksell, Interest and Prices A Study of the Causes Regulating the Value of Money, 138–9), does not draw the logical inference from this that those capitalists then also receive interest on those deposits in addition to their income from production and trade.

Bibliography

  • Barbon, Nicholas. A Discourse of Trade. London: Milbourn, 1690.

    Google Scholar 

  • Engels, Fredrick. “Preface.” In MECW. Vol. 37. London: Lawrence & Wishart, 1998.

    Google Scholar 

  • Hawtrey, Ralph George. A Century of Bank Rate. London: Longmans, Green and Co., 1938.

    Google Scholar 

  • Hilferding, Rudolf. Finance Capital A Study of the Latest Phase of Capitalist Development. London: Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1981.

    Google Scholar 

  • Hobson, John Atkinson. Gold Prices and Wages with an Examination of the Quantity Theory. London: Methuen, 1924.

    Google Scholar 

  • Kalecki, Michal. “An Essay on the Business Cycle Theory.” In The Collected Works of Michał Kalecki Volume I Capitalism: Business Cycles and Full Employment, edited by Jerzy Osiatynski. Oxford: The Clarendon Press, 1933.

    Google Scholar 

  • Kalecki, Michal. “The Short-term Rate of Interest and the Velocity of Cash Circulation.” Review of Economic Studies 2 (1941): 97–9.

    Google Scholar 

  • Kalecki, Michal. Selected Essays on the Dynamics of the Capitalist Economy 1933–1970. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1971.

    Google Scholar 

  • Kiyotaki, Nobuhiro and John Moore. “Credit Cycles.” Journal of Political Economy 105, no. 2 (April 1997): 211–48.

    Google Scholar 

  • Marx, Karl. Theories of Surplus Value Part III. Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1971.

    Google Scholar 

  • Marx, Karl. Capital. Vol. II. In MECW. Vol. 36. London: Lawrence & Wishart, 1997.

    Google Scholar 

  • Marx, Karl. Capital. Vol. III. In MECW. Vol. 37. London: Lawrence & Wishart, 1998.

    Google Scholar 

  • Niebyl, Karl H. Studies in the Classical Theories of Money. New York: Columbia University Press, 1946.

    Google Scholar 

  • Reinhart, Carmen M. and Kenneth S. Rogoff. “This Time is Different: A Panoramic View of Eight Centuries of Financial Crises.” NBER Working Paper No. 13882 (March 2008).

    Google Scholar 

  • Ricardo, David. The High Price of Bullion: A Proof of the Depreciation of Bank Notes. In The Works and Correspondence of David Ricardo, Volume III, Pamphlets and Papers, 1809–1811, edited by Piero Sraffa, 47–98. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1951a.

    Google Scholar 

  • Ricardo, David. On the Principles of Political Economy and Taxation. In The Works and Correspondence of David Ricardo Volume I, edited by Piero Sraffa with Maurice Dobb. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1951b.

    Google Scholar 

  • Robertson, Dennis Holme. “Theories of Banking Policy.” In Essays in Monetary Theory London: P.S. King, 1940.

    Google Scholar 

  • Schumpeter, Joseph A. History of Economic Analysis. New York: Oxford University Press, 1954.

    Google Scholar 

  • Shackle, G. L. S. “Foreword.” In Value Capital and Rent, by Knut Wicksell, 5–13. London: George Allen and Unwin, 1954.

    Google Scholar 

  • Smith, Matthew. Thomas Tooke and the Monetary Thought of Classical Economics. Abingdon, UK: Routledge, 2011.

    Book  Google Scholar 

  • Toporowski, Jan. Theories of Financial Disturbance: An Examination of Critical Theories of Finance from Adam Smith to the Present Day. Cheltenham: Edward Elgar, 2005.

    Book  Google Scholar 

  • Toporowski, Jan. “A Kalecki Fable on Debt and the Monetary Transmission Mechanism.” London School of Economics, Financial Markets Group Special Paper No. 239 (August 2015).

    Google Scholar 

  • Wicksell, Knut. Interest and Prices: A Study of the Causes Regulating the Value of Money. London: Macmillan, 1936.

    Google Scholar 

  • Withers, Hartley. The Meaning of Money. New York: Dutton, 1909.

    Google Scholar 

Download references

Author information

Authors and Affiliations

Authors

Editor information

Editors and Affiliations

Rights and permissions

Reprints and permissions

Copyright information

© 2019 The Author(s)

About this chapter

Check for updates. Verify currency and authenticity via CrossMark

Cite this chapter

Toporowski, J. (2019). Marx’s Observations on the Classical Theory of Interest. In: Gupta, S., Musto, M., Amini, B. (eds) Karl Marx’s Life, Ideas, and Influences. Marx, Engels, and Marxisms. Palgrave Macmillan, Cham. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-030-24815-4_10

Download citation

Publish with us

Policies and ethics