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As Part II opens, Demea, addressing himself to Cleanthes, makes the distinction between the existence of God and the nature of God, maintaining that the former is certain and self-evident, while the latter is incomprehensible and unknown:

I must own, Cleanthes, said Demea, that nothing can more surprise me, than the light, in which you have, all along, put this argument. By the whole tenor of your discourse, one would imagine that you were maintaining the being of a God, against the cavils of atheists and infidels; and were necessitated to become a champion for that fundamental principle of all religion. But this, I hope, is not by any means a question among us. No man; no man, at least, of common sense, I am persuaded, ever entertained a serious doubt with regard to a truth so certain and self-evident. The question is not concerning the being but the nature of God. This, I affirm, from the infirmities of human understanding, to be altogether incomprehensible and unknown to us.1

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  2. John Laird (“The Present Day Relevance of Hume’s Dialogues,” p. 207) makes the point that the Dialogues “are in the main between Cleanthes and Philo. Demea, in principle, does not count.” There is already a sense in which Demea does count: in the opening paragraphs of Part II, Hume is attempting to show, in fact to insist, that Philo’s view of the unknowability and incomprehensibility of the divine nature is identical to that held by “all divines almost, from the foundation of Christianity, who have ever treated of this or any other theological subject, and in particular, to that held by Demea, the orthodox religionist in the discussion. Reason, therefore, and religion arrive at the same, rather than different, views regarding the divine nature.

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Tweyman, S. (1986). Hume’s Dialogues: Part II. In: Scepticism and Belief in Hume’s Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion. International Archives of the History of Ideas/Archives Internationales D’Histoire des Idees, vol 106. Springer, Dordrecht. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-94-009-4341-4_3

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